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Kixforms vs Kixforms.NET

 
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blackcure
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Kixforms vs Kixforms.NET Reply with quote

Hello all,

I have some scripts with kixforms, I used kixform in desktops scripts because I only must register kixforms.dll.

for use Kixforms.net, I have to install .net Framework and kixforms.net.

Is this ok?

Then, what's the diferences? (kixforms vs kixforms.net)

why, must I use kixforms.net?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You dont have to use Kixforms.Net - in fact, for platforms that dont have .Net installed I would suggest you stick with plain-old Kixforms. Installing .Net framework just for the sake of supporting Kixforms.Net doesn't make a whole lot of sense (it does in some circumstances though, like if you were deploying a sizable application script)

Kixforms.Net is "the future" of Kixforms. One day, through simple attrition, the .Net framework will be installed on all Windows platforms. Its bound to happen - just like with ADSI and WMI, in the early days hardly anyone used them because they required separate installs on NT4 - now they are "part of the OS" ... same thing will happen with .Net framework - at which point using Kixforms.Net will just be a matter of installing the Kixforms.Net DLL (again).

Right now, I'm strictly using (and developing further) Kixforms.Net only because it has more power, and over time will have much more power, then plain-old Kixforms could ever have. Having said that, one of my co-workers just asked for a custom setup Form for his Citrix server farm - but I wrote it in plain-old Kixforms - why ? Because its light-weight, he didn't want to install .Net frameworkl, and it worked amazing well for what he needed.

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Les
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody said you MUST use .NET at all. It is only the future of KF. You can stay in the past as long as you like.
[edit] Dang - Shawn beat me and one-upped me too.

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Shawn
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah maybe. But you said it all in one sentence.

The big thing that I like (and that you should like too) is that Kixforms.Net is really just a bridge or a gateway to the full power of Microsoft's .Net framework. By using Kixforms.Net, you are really deriving the full benefit of the massive effort (and quality and support) that Microsoft puts into developing its .Net framework.

Take a recent example - Transparent Controls - for me to do that would be a massive undertaking - many, many hours probably to cover-off all the controls - with .Net Framework, transparent controls are already there.

And when .Net Version 2.0 starts to kick in - you should see all the new controls that Microsoft has added - like the GridView and fancy Menus and the SplitContainer and special layout controls. Tons of neat stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm...
kixforms.net is developed with .net 1.0, right?

the time it gets to use 2.0 is gonna be really far in the future.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been developing Kixforms.Net using .Net Framework 2.0 (Beta) since day one. Just recently switched to 2.0 Release (to debug that problem recently reported). As far as I know, everything works well.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, when you use .net 2 and user of kf.net has 1.0, what happens to the enhanced functionality?

and, I'm sure you said in the beginning that you do it with 1.0

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