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KIXforms WIKI? (please vote!)
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What do you think about an open KIXforms-docu-WIKI?
Great! When do we start?
88%
 88%  [ 8 ]
I like it, but wouldn't participate.
11%
 11%  [ 1 ]
I think it isn't a good idea, because...
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 9

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therob
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw. i would like to hear shawns opinion on this...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick search reveals that MediaWiki (which powers Wikipedia) has a plugin that enables it to use the phpBB user tables for authentication. In other words anyone could view the Wiki, but only forum members could edit posts. I don't agree that the existing forum and a potential Wiki are completely separate. Yes, most forum members will not contribute to the Wiki, however it is very unlikely that someone will want to contribute to the Wiki who is not already a forum member. I am comfortable with that kind of arrangement, however I would not be happy about leaving a Wiki wide open.

Rod.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rod wrote:
A quick search reveals that MediaWiki (which powers Wikipedia) has a plugin that enables it to use the phpBB user tables for authentication. In other words anyone could view the Wiki, but only forum members could edit posts. I don't agree that the existing forum and a potential Wiki are completely separate. Yes, most forum members will not contribute to the Wiki, however it is very unlikely that someone will want to contribute to the Wiki who is not already a forum member. I am comfortable with that kind of arrangement, however I would not be happy about leaving a Wiki wide open.

Rod.


I don't agree m8. I do believe there might be contributors not connected to a current board. That's one of the strong sides of the WIKI, it brings more contributors!

But why connect these two different resources and deliberately make both of them more vulnerable?

What happens to the WIKI if there's board upgrades? What happens to the board if there's WIKI upgrades? What happens to either part if there's a plug-in update?

I also don't think just anyone should be able to update. But I DO think that the WIKI should be completely separated. There's no benefits at all connecting the WIKI to a bulletin board. It only leads to more administration and potential catch 22's.

To keep them separate does not hinder that a WIKI contributor check still be done. A normal e-mail check is the simplest way, and/or a policy that says that you have to be a registered member at this or that board to contribute. But I still don't see the need or benefits of an integration.
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Lonkero
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol.
masken, you said that you don't see why they should be integrated but you fail to say why not.

and actually your examples of authentication actually only list 1 real way of editor limiting and it was the board method.

so please, even if you don't like something, it doesn't mean it is bad.

currently the easiest way and a way that adds the least amount of admin work is the phpBB plugin.
keeping a separate authentication system would increase the work load and maintenance time a lot.

and then, why would adding a wiki on kf.org make the board vulnerable?
odd reasoning...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lonkero wrote:
lol.
masken, you said that you don't see why they should be integrated but you fail to say why not.

and actually your examples of authentication actually only list 1 real way of editor limiting and it was the board method.

so please, even if you don't like something, it doesn't mean it is bad.

currently the easiest way and a way that adds the least amount of admin work is the phpBB plugin.
keeping a separate authentication system would increase the work load and maintenance time a lot.

and then, why would adding a wiki on kf.org make the board vulnerable?
odd reasoning...

Then you seriously need to read again :p

Did you actually read my post, or did you lonkenize it? Wink
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Lonkero
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both.

like said, I don't see your points really.
but guess they are just opinions after all. I don't need to flame you for them Wink

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apronk
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd personally would like to see both KiX and KiXforms on Wiki. Not only to tell ppl about what it does but more as an object of reference so ppl can read about it and the history behind it. I mostly use Wiki to see what the history behind an item is, why it was made and how it affects things. In that scenario a Wiki on both KiX and KiXforms would be quite usefull and would help and minimize for instance the discussions between VBS and KiX. Another thing is you can refer new ppl to the Wiki when they start out. Just my 2 cents worth....
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OwenJ
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: FAB! Reply with quote

I am all for this WIKI WIKI THINGY!

When I first started using the KIXForm scripting I was inundated with ideas, but could not get them working due to a lack of patience for looking it up in the "CHM".

I have only one script that is worth something, and it has taken me half a year to perfect. I would like to run queeries on the network, and check to see if I can make a list of who is online and who isn't.

Your wiki would be great...

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